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almighty_frog: (SHIELD THE BRAIN!)
Everyone and their brother sister sibling has been posting/commenting about Survey!fail, it seems. [community profile] linkspam has gone a bit mad with all the post roundups - I really love that community.

I don't have much to add to all the discourse, at least in part because I feel kinda of detached from it all. I spent the three years of my degree arguing with determined morons like the "researchers" who sparked off Survey!fail, and I'm just tired of it. They won't change their minds because they have too much incentive not to - behaving like a decent human being with a reasonable set of morals just doesn't weigh against the incentives of privilege, money, and the desire not to take an honest look at their own behaviour.

However, the response from people in fandom has reminded me of just how intelligent, articulate and insightful so many of the people who participate in fandom, however you define "fandom", truly are. Ignoring everything else, a good part of fandom once again shines with the intellects and passions of the people within it.

Unfortunately, that shine has been somewhat tarnished by those who believe the correct response to the behaviour of Ogi and Sai is some quite frankly abusive RPF and photo manips. Please, just ... don't. Those of you who think it's funny should go talk to people who have images of them being sexual abused circulating on the internet. Saying "it's just a story" or "it's just a photoshop" is missing the point, because the effects are the same: a feeling of violation, exposure and degradation. Yes, I know those are feelings Ogi and Sai have caused in many people. Why does that make it okay to do it back?

It's funny how often I'm both proud of and ashamed by fandom in the same breath...

Edit made approx. 2 mins after posting: By "fandom", I mean the collective body of people who read, write, draw, comment, lurk, and so on and so forth in any community setting (in this case internet-based) regarding something that they are a fan of. Argh, bad grammar, but you get the point - I'm trying to be as inclusive as possible. And yeah, that covers a hell of a lot of ground, so it's not really surprising that I should be both proud of and ashamed by fandom as I have defined it. Doesn't change the fact that I would prefer to be one and not the other. Wishful thinking? Probably. Worth thinking? Definitely.

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almighty_frog: (hitoshura)
[personal profile] almighty_frog wrote:
Sep. 5th, 2009 10:54 am (UTC)
I am actually able to flat-out say that yes, I have seen people prosecuted for sexual abuse as a result of making photoshop images of other people. I can't give specific details, unfortunately, but Alchemia's image (which I think is the one you're referring to?) is very, very similar to some cases I have seen. It also potentially falls under the UK's extreme pornography law (which is not as stupid as it sounds, really!) depending on if the CPS decided that the tentacles were supposed to depict sex with an animal - although that's kind of a moot point since I think she's American. Generally speaking, though, if it looks like a criminal offence, you're doing something wrong!

I'm with you on both RPF and tentacle porn - I find RPF very squicky, but I do enjoy some fics with tentacle porn assuming they don't hit any of my other squick buttons (like rape). I just avoid RPF in general - both reading it and commenting on it - because it's such a can of worms that I don't even want to go there.

With Alchemia's picture ... I'm very firmly on the sexual attack side, partly because I have seen people prosecuted for similar things. But then, the difference between fiction and real life is that fictional people don't suffer psychological harm. Real people do. It saddens me that some people involved in Survey!fail don't quite seem to understand that, or properly understand all that that means. :/